Willow Creek Rising
Among the greatest of mankind’s failures is its refusal to allow the Jewish people the freedom to reconcile their past, how they got there, and where they are going. The persistent adherence to the Judaic persecution complex design is ruining the world - for men and for women - and certainly for children.
If there had been no WWII, there would not be the visibility of Jewish victim-minded persons ready to extract its revenge upon the world for its very real suppressed anger and resentment. But in that suppression lies the potential destruction of the world for the inability to tend to the grieving and suffering that knows no resolution, and must be perpetuated generation after generation.
That is a horrible burden for any race, or ethnicity, and prevents the freedom to compartmentalize the pain to prevent it from infecting the world anew, with every generation. That Jews cannot do that alone is understandable since, of course, they were victims of the pain, not creators of it.
That it is deepseated to be sure is the greater reason that it must be dug up and placed within the context of how it came to be - or it remains festering under the surface of every Jewish-non-Jewish interaction, as a matter of course, and understandable.
No one should have to swallow that much ethnic/religious pain, and no one should expect a different outcome in society when the pain is required to be ignored. It could and should be ethnic/religious cleansing of the most important and positive priority to reach that reconciliation with the world so desperately needed, and so desperately deserved. No amount of money can ease that pain rooted in the conscience regardless of its origins. Emotional reconciliation is the only way to deliver freedom from the pain of those generations upon whom it has been left.
Would not any religious/ethnic group deserve the same in such circumstances - in order to go on with their lives? It is this generation’s failure to ignore it and it will not subside on its own.
Posted by Pat on 03/31/09 at 09:20 AMI’m not sure why immense space was devoted to this report…I presume some agenda but perhaps that’s because I am so bored with evangelic christian hoo ha. Perhaps it was to the pathos of American cash box christianity, so unlike Judaism. I’ll see if I can go somewhere near filling the space devoted to this Christianity circus reported upon.LOL!!
Every night Evangelistic American hogwash plagues TV around the world in a variety of “christian” brainwashing, biblical extracts posing as the word of god”...or even sometimes as the words of Jeeeesusss” and teaching very much how to “be a financial success…but remember your tithes…oh, but you can pay more than tithes..here’s how”
The moronic-christianity show,the Crystal cathedral for just one of several of these American mockeries of the reality of jesus…be he divine or not is irrelevant…is a spit in the eye to everything jesus taught but it sucks money out of people “in jesuuuus name”. So does Hillsong in Australia. These are the people of whom Jesus said ‘false prophets will arise among you’.
Hillsong in Australia is another tithe chaser in its Hillsong Sunday ‘bandstand’and CD sales..When I looked at the church’s site years ago all it was about was making money selling CD’s etc…he’s right into the profits of tithing…and more..
Tithing I was talking about…well actually of course, its god who wants it, like he wants the thousands of goats and sheep and chickens slaughtered as ‘sacrifice’ each day….(yawwwwwn!!) Man makes god in his image and likeness…greedy, requiring adulation…acting most on the greatest sacrifice…but hang on, Jesus said of the widow…“she gave most because she gave all she had”..but she gave to the poor not to the rich and powerful high priests who demanded tithes “for God”.
If jesus could say then “oh you hypocrites”...in a a small aspect of the world..how much more could he say it now in a whole world based on religious hypocrisy and politics driven by zealots and supported by greedy bible bashers killing and torturing each other in the name of god .?
I once watched the Crystal Cathedral roadshow , fascinated with the gall of “spin christianity” in which the originator of that place was seeking more money from tithing…. He told the solace seeking congegation and ye, verily, all the world via satellite TV…a tragic personal story of how he had planned a holiday for his family. The car needed brakes and tyres etc.
So…instead of paying his tithes (something non existant under Christianity, Jesus never asked for tithes from people)he fixed up the car to make it safe.He used his tithing money…Oh no..but in a good cause mind you..safety of his family, a needed holiday, love, give the kids some enjoyment, bonding…you know…
Well they piled excitedly in but guess what…you wouldn’t believe it…the car broke down a couple of hundred miles up the road and had to be towed back…the holiday was ruined!!..
Well, bretheren, this is what hapbens when you slight God, try to do him out of his dues….so don’t forget now..pay up, pay up, pay up…..pay up money is all, money is power….funny I seem to remember Jesus’ words being “if you would find everlasting life, sell all you have and give it to the poor…and come , follow me”...a fairly original stand for a Rabbi.
I can imagine if there actually was a god, it saying ...‘hey, look there’s that whatever his name is trying to make his car safe for his family to go on holidays instead of paying me (me??) his tithes…I’ll fix HIS waggon…the nerve of it, thinking about the ‘safety of his family’ at my expense…here Michael, get your head of of TV week, give him a head start so he’s really excited about how well the car is going and than zap his car with that lightning bolt marked “breakdown and tow home”...
Yeah,... sure!!
American Christianity other than direct mainstream is the source of the woes of this world in several ways, the greatest of which is its access to the whitehouse. Mohammedanism certainly is a prosletyising religion based on judaism butif would be less venemous militarily if not forever confronted with its paranoia about American and Israeli religious “anti islamic behaviour”...and it has a very reasonable point..Power based religion and those who use it for national political agenda and to create wars justifying them in ‘god’s will”..inlcuding ‘Islam’are the curse of mankind and are leading to it’s mental imprisonment and military facism.
The problem seems to me to be that religion hasn’t moved very far out of the black and bloody minded approach of a man made god based on ancient king worship and servitude.For that Judaism has to accept responsibility but then so does Islam, the Baptist church and so many others who base themselves on saying they have moved ahead when in fact they have gone virtually nowehere. To my mind a christian would hardly ever mention ‘god’, christianity is in pure form a way of life bringing sustenance and joy, not oppression.Jesus referred to “my father in heaven’ according to reports..not to Yeweh or any other format.
Even the deaths of dozens if not hundreds of millions of people in essentially religious wars, such as in a more ‘minor’ way against Palestine and Iraq and against Israel too…just doesn’t seem to be able to make the millions of adherents see that you don’t have to be a christian by religion to save the world’s sanity and secure peace, probably better if you are NOT a Christian by club membership, you merely should act the philosophy of jesus in every day example. I say that not being , in defined terms, a christian. No other religion offers the clarity of thought and freedom from stifling man made traditon that jesus did.
What will your Messiah offer? I appreciate that none of my letters to the newspaper ever brings any intelligent answer even if you think I am unintelligent, however perhaps they are worth pondering.
Like zionist influence and masonic influence in media and government it has access it should never have. These influences are not directed at truth and justice or “the ordinary people” but at warmongering and personal commercial and political power and especially in the sale of arms in one crusade or another.
I couldn’t agree more than that the “christianity show” as you highlighted at great length has become any less than fraudulent manipulation of what is purported as ‘the word of god’ but in doing it, jesus is left out other than in a series of supporting acts.
Christianity has nothing to do with Judaism, there is no such reality for a christian as “judeo christianity” except in the brainwashed mind. ...jesus came to change the outlook.
Jesus never claimed to be a ‘jew’, he held judaic observances which might make him a symbolic follower of observances but catholics for example are not jews nor judais though they follow Judaic “adopted” practices.
They also follow Pagan observance (and Pagan does not mean “anti-god,as is so purported in mindless religious babble… “Pagan” means “of the country” as barbarian mean “not of the country”
Religious observance hypocrisies for example came under jesus education in the reality of religous imprisonment being exposed ...“which of you having (this or than catastrophe) does not go and (resolve the problem) on the Sabbath.” “let he among you without sin cast the first stone” “which of these men is a neighbour”?...giving credit…not lip service…to the equality of women, the value of women, the marvellousness and compleness of primitive man in enlightenment which women can bring.
I asked the question in a recent response to a letter by Mr Rubin, (sic) “what do you think you will get out of the messiah you are awaiting than the one that came already, according to christianity…??...what better philosophy? Do you expect a Rabbi with plastic explosives ?...what DO you expect to arrive?...someone to place Judaism as the controller of the universe?...someone tell me…because I frankly just don’t understand what you are waiting for.
Maybe it’s all just the ostriching part of saying “it couldn’t be jesus, he actually had the nerve to condemn our centuries old practices, he didn’t come here and play Pied Piper with the Romans, he didn’t confirm to the universe that what we are doing as 100% correct, he didn’t kow tow to the high priests, he didn’t learn wonders from the highpriests and scribes…they learned from him “and wondered”. In fact he took us to task. “...
Maybe it is simply avoiding change…waiting for something which even were it to happen will do what?...you must know…and in fact why don’t you just examine your conscience and make the appropriate changes.?
Are you only going to say “he has come” if he comes to dramatically confirm and not to dramatically change” jesus said in essence..‘you read the seasons…..but you do not see the signs of the coming of man”
You can probably tell I’d make a lousy jew and am a lousy christian (humour). I do not believe that any god of perfection and complete intellect would have the slightest interest in virtually everything done “in his name”.
I believe in intelligent religion, why should we have less in following an intelligent being..if one exists… and raw as it may be in the eyes of eastern Religions,the philosophy of jesus is the outstanding philosophical accumulation of all time.
A single sentence from jesus covers all things..even Will Rogers couldn’t do that. Whether jesus was divine, married, unmarried..it’s of no consequence to the brilliance of his mind.
Were his way followed and no other (and that means no christianity charlatans and spruikers..just people all following his teachings)...peace and justice would reign on earth. No other religion can offer that because no other religion is essentially of the heart and no other religion divests itself of trappings, as did he.
He didn’t live a bad life mind you, dined with the “hoy polloy” knew a few big guns and centurions, was well recognised by the wives of the officials but essentially this was his calling to mix with all including the lepers,the sinners the outcasts of judaic practice and outlook. I have not a great deal of doubt that the trial and crucifixion was a plan that went horribly wrong and Pilate and herod must have copped a real earful from their wives about the stuff-up. Neverle the less it happened and the self proclaimed Messiah, pointing out to the prolyteriate how his actions fitted the old Judaic legends and prophecies should make it clear…went down. Being a man in form at least, he bled and suffered.
What will your Messiah offer…please tell me…and how will he save mankind?...Will he be the antichrist…completely opposite to the teachings of jesus?...what will he be?...you must have an idea, a good idea, if you say jesus and his teachings were not messianic. Somone please tell me. You can email me if you want rather than to expose yourself in the newspaper as being prepared to answer Francois….Email is .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address). No bushels being hidden-behind here LOL!
Shalom
Posted by Francois on 05/12/08 at 07:45 PM